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Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Montag 1. August 2022, 20:26
von CyberBadger
Vielen Dank, Paul & Christoph! I think that answers all of my questions for now. :)

I will update later about the needles, and if the shuttle that I ordered works as a replacement.

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Donnerstag 8. August 2024, 10:20
von CyberBadger
Hello again -

I realise that this is quite an old topic, but I wanted to share my results in case they are helpful for someone else.
I took a closer look at the original shuttle hook, and noticed that it appeared to have been broken & repaired (brazed) with brass at some point in time. I suspect that the hook might not have the original shape, or at least that may be why it's had such difficulties.

But I realised that the size was nearly identical to the one used for a Singer 29k, aside from a slightly different shape under the 'hook' part. So, I ordered a replacement bobbin & shuttle for the Singer 29k (a cheaper one since this was only a test). I marked the areas that needed to be removed, and modified it by grinding, sanding, and polishing. I am happy to report it was a success! And now I can order replacement bobbins as well. :D

I am attaching some photos below, hopefully this helps someone else in a similar situation.

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Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Donnerstag 8. August 2024, 13:27
von Berit
Great work! Congratulations beerchug

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Donnerstag 8. August 2024, 21:48
von Asher
looks to me like a Singer 29 "small hook shuttle".

I wonder, if it is possible to transfer as 29/small shuttle machine or a Patent elastic into a big bobbin one.
(ok, there are also Singer 29 with big bobbins, but all my 29 are small bobbin)

Could be interesting for you as well

(Jag är inte i Sverige nu och jag talar inte Svenska anyway, so also all in english biggrin )

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Freitag 9. August 2024, 05:53
von adler104
Asher hat geschrieben: Donnerstag 8. August 2024, 21:48
I wonder, if it is possible to transfer as 29/small shuttle machine or a Patent elastic into a big bobbin one.
(ok, there are also Singer 29 with big bobbins, but all my 29 are small bobbin)
Not possible cause the casting and shuttle driver / shuttle carrier are made the way that they only can accommodate a certain size of hooks. Large hooks requires a new and matching hook and shuttle driver (incl. needle plate) and they are for sure no longer available.

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Freitag 9. August 2024, 10:53
von js_hsm
Ich würde Euch bitten wieder in deutsch zu schreiben dann ist es für alle einfacher.
Nicht jeder spricht gut englisch.

Gruß, Achim

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Freitag 9. August 2024, 13:56
von claude
Wer die komplette Seite automatisch auf deutsch übersetzt haben möchte:

https://www-naehmaschinentechnik--forum ... r_pto=wapp

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Freitag 9. August 2024, 14:01
von js_hsm
Es ist eine Frage der Relation..
..entweder der Fragesteller übersetzt einmal oder jeder der (ohne ausreichende Englischkenntnisse) lesen und helfen möchte muss übersetzen.

Gruß, Achim

Re: Help w/ Patent Elastic -type machine (Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic', maybe?): spulenkapsel etc...

Verfasst: Freitag 9. August 2024, 19:07
von Asher
ok, stimm ich zu.

Kurzfassung meines englischen Beitrags:
Ich hab mich gefragt, ob man eine Singer 29 mit kleiner Spule auf große Spule umstellen kann, und auch eine Patent Elastc umstellen kann.
Denn Singer 29 mit großer Spule sind nicht grad zahlreich.

Adler104 hat dies verneint